Supreme Goodness 

Explain- God is fully involved in the good of the universe because he is a good God. If he is a perfect being he must therefore be perfectly good, his kindness makes him benign.

However, God is not good in the way we as humans believe or perceive him to be, which means suffering is actually an example of his goodness and justice, even if we personally do not understand it.

Illustrate- Augustine said “he is absolutely good, but we can also say that he is not good, for he is not good in the way we are”.

Hume’s ‘dialogues concerning natural religion’ - by looking at nature we see God’s love (Cleanthes), ‘we feel God’s benevolent presence through the wretchedness of our own existence‘.

Coherence- God’s supreme goodness does not coincide with both natural and man-made evil in the world. Doesn't this show that God doesn't care, meaning he cannot be supremely good? If he however is unable to stop this even then supreme goodness is mutually incompatible with Omnipotence as he cannot be all powerful. If he doesn't know of this evil then he is not omniscient, all knowing.

 Doesn't make sense for God to be supremely good as he doesn't make anybody happy through such a ‘terrible world’, even his moral attributes cannot be accounted for by the evidence of volcanoes etc.

Omnipotence 

Explain- God possesses infinite power. “He expends no energy that needs to be replenished”, his power is not diminished by creating those with power, such as his creation, he has no need to rest. God claimed in the old testament to the Israelites that he was only one God among many and could use his power/omnipotence to erase evidence of his past work, seen in the lack of archaeological evidence in the cities mentioned in the Bible.

Illustrate- He has been depicted with an omnipotent power throughout art and many cultures, William Blake gave him an all seeing eye. 6th Century BC- “he shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble”, he has the power to shake the very foundations of existence. His powers are knowable.

Coherence- God’s omnipotent power allows him infinite power, however he is still unable to stop suffering in the world, how can he be so powerful? The discovery of science and a clockwork universe means that the world runs for ever, God is meant to be all powerful but this shows that God’s power is not needed or there anymore.

Omniscience 

Explain- God knows everything. He has infinite knowledge, even of the future (as if he is eternal he must have knowledge of past, presence and future). He knows what we are doing and what we have yet to do. One of the central divine attributes, it only makes sense for a perfect God to therefore have perfect knowledge.

 Illustrate- Job 12:13 “With God are wisdom and strength, he has counsel and understanding”. Job knew God’s wisdom and knowledge, even when he appeared to have none after treating him so badly. 

Coherence- If God knows everything, even the future, then how is it possible for us to have free will like Adam and Eve were meant to have, he already knows what we are going to do. Mutually Incoherent- If God knows everything then he must know of suffering. However, if he knows of suffering yet chooses to do nothing about it, how can he be supremely good? Although, Theists may argue against this by saying how suffering is merely God’s plan and evidence of his justice, we are simply ignorant and do not understand. God cannot know everything as certain knowledge and facts can only be learnt via experience. Knowledge of what it is like to sin can only be learnt through sinning. God cannot sin as he is supremely good so how can he have knowledge of this?

 Transcendence 

 Explain- God rises above his creation. He is the only independent being, allowing him to be unknowable and the unknown despite creating the world, the heavens and all of mankind. He is not capable of sin and we cannot possibly understand him because he is untouchable, metaphysical and far above us.

 Illustrate- Philosopher Kiekergaard rejected Immanence, he believed that God and his creation are “two qualities separated by an infinite qualitative difference”. Isaiah 53: 8-9 “for my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, said the Lord”. God is telling Isaiah that God and his creation are entirely separate. We are not perfect enough to ever meet, see or be like him.

Coherance- Mutually incoherent with immanence. How can he be metaphysical yet involved in the world? Isn’t he also meant to intervene the world via miracles and prayers? If he’s transcendent then this seems impossible. It is a restriction on what God can do and therefore cashes with omnipotence.

Immanent 

Explain- God is involved in all creation and we depend on him. There is no place where God is not, he is present in all of space and time. The written word of the bible testifies God’s divine interest, he is therefore an abstract deity. God exists within us, within the universe and we interact/learn with him via miracles, prayers etc. God provides for his creation.

Illustrate- God is involved with all creation, Genesis explains how Adam and Eve “heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day”. Here God is a physical being, able for interaction and communication. God’s immanence is supported by the Bible as a whole, for instance Jesus’ incarnation is an example of God’s role in the world. God is “sustaining all things by his powerful word” Hebrews 1:3. 

Coherence- Immanence directly conflicts with transcendence. How can God be directly involved with all of creation on a personal level (such as fighting alongside the Israelites against the Philistines) if he is a metaphysical being, above and beyond all knowing and interaction? If God is supposed to have created space and time then he must therefore exist outside of it, however Immanence speaks of a God who is very much everlasting, this doesn’t make sense.

Eternal/Everlasting 

 Explain- If God is eternal he is outside time which means he is unable to modify the present, yet he is still able to observe past, present and future. He cannot be involved directly in the world/his creation. If God is everlasting he is inside time, dwelling in eternity. He can interact with the world and knows of both past and present.

 Illustrate- Thomas Aquinas’s analogy “he who goes along the road does not see those who come after him; whereas he who sees the whole road from a height sees at once all those travelling along it”. He was saying how a timeless God is thought to observe the entire course of history at once, just as a person may observe the entire road all at once. Job “he moves on, but I do not perceive him”. This sounds as if Job was aware of God everlastingly, feeling his movement, yet this may mean an eternal God if he is unable to see him. 

Coherence- An everlasting God is able to interact and intervene with the world, including our present. If God can affect this, then do we still have free will? Both eternal and everlasting attributes do not coincide, how can God be both inside, and outside time at the same time? If God is inside time he must therefore be changing, just like everything does. However, if God is perfect and he changes, surely he will become imperfect? That doesn’t make sense.

Omnipotence 

Explain- God possesses infinite power. “He expends no energy that needs to be replenished”, his power is not diminished by creating those with power, such as his creation, he has no need to rest. God claimed in the old testament to the Israelites that he was only one God among many and could use his power/omnipotence to erase evidence of his past work, seen in the lack of archaeological evidence in the cities mentioned in the Bible.

Illustrate- He has been depicted with an omnipotent power throughout art and many cultures, William Blake gave him an all seeing eye. 6th Century BC- “he shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble”, he has the power to shake the very foundations of existence. His powers are knowable.

Coherence- God’s omnipotent power allows him infinite power, however he is still unable to stop suffering in the world, how can he be so powerful? The discovery of science and a clockwork universe means that the world runs for ever, God is meant to be all powerful but this shows that God’s power is not needed or there anymore.

Name	Explain	Illustrate	Coherence
Supreme goodness	God is good and just in everything he does, as his standards of morality are not necessarily the same as ours.	St Augustine: “He is absolutely good; but we can also say that he is not good, for he is not good in the way that we are.”	God’s goodness is not reflected in the horrors of the world seen every day, and the consignment of millions to the flames. Later theologians found it “impossible to reconcile justice and goodness” because of this.
Omnipotent	God is all-powerful; he is the founder, creator and sole owner of the universe.	Job wrote: “He shakes the world out of its place, and its pillars tremble; [he] commands the sun and it does not rise”	God’s power is not always obvious: originally God was less elusive and Genesis tells they “heard the sound” of Him walking in the Garden of Eden, but now Job says “he passes by me, and I see him not”. If God is all-powerful consistently, why does he seem to become more powerful as his followers get weaker? He commands “thou shalt have no other gods before him” suggests other omniscient beings exist.
Omniscient	God is all knowing, thus always does the right thing	The book of Joshua: “when Israel had finished slaughtering all the inhabitants of Ai” which included God’s ‘ very active partisanship’	An omniscient God becomes very hard to know as if he knows the bloodshed of eg. war, why does he allow it to happen? “Both sides in the First World War claimed His support but after all the carnage neither winners not losers found it easy to forgive him”
Transcendent	God exists outside of time and is independent of the universe – he cannot be approached or seen	Job claims: “Lo, he passes by me, and I see him not; he moves on, but I do not perceive him.”	Previously, in Genesis, God is described as being very present in time: “they heard the sound of Lord God walking in the garden”. Also, God is involved in the genocide in Israel. It seems to contradict the idea of imminence.
Imminent	An imminent God is one which exists within us, within the universe and is actively a part of our existence	Genesis: “and they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden”	Imminence directly contradicts the idea of a transcendent God: either he exists outside of time, or in it, both qualities cannot exist simultaneously
Eternal/everlasting	If God is eternal, he is above and separated from time. As everlasting, he has no beginning or end but exists throughout time.	God appears separate from time when he is described by Job; “he passes by me, and I see him not”. He appears present in time when described by Genesis: “and they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden”.	This attribute lacks coherence within itself because eternal and everlasting contradict each other.

Job is a wealthy man living in a land called Uz with his large family and extensive flocks. He is “blameless” and “upright,” always careful to avoid doing evil (1:1). One day, Satan (“the Adversary”) appears before God in heaven. God boasts to Satan about Job’s goodness, but Satan argues that Job is only good because God has blessed him abundantly. Satan challenges God that, if given permission to punish the man, Job will turn and curse God. God allows Satan to torment Job to test this bold claim, but he forbids Satan to take Job’s life in the process.

In the course of one day, Job receives four messages, each bearing separate news that his livestock, servants, and ten children have all died due to marauding invaders or natural catastrophes. Job tears his clothes and shaves his head in mourning, but he still blesses God in his prayers. Satan appears in heaven again, and God grants him another chance to test Job. This time, Job is afflicted with horrible skin sores. His wife encourages him to curse God and to give up and die, but Job refuses, struggling to accept his circumstances.

Three of Job’s friends, Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar, come to visit him, sitting with Job in silence for seven days out of respect for his mourning. On the seventh day, Job speaks, beginning a conversation in which each of the four men shares his thoughts on Job’s afflictions in long, poetic statements.

Job curses the day he was born, comparing life and death to light and darkness. He wishes that his birth had been shrouded in darkness and longs to have never been born, feeling that light, or life, only intensifies his misery. Eliphaz responds that Job, who has comforted other people, now shows that he never really understood their pain. Eliphaz believes that Job’s agony must be due to some sin Job has committed, and he urges Job to seek God’s favor. Bildad and Zophar agree that Job must have committed evil to offend God’s justice and argue that he should strive to exhibit more blameless behavior. Bildad surmises that Job’s children brought their deaths upon themselves. Even worse, Zophar implies that whatever wrong Job has done probably deserves greater punishment than what he has received.

Job responds to each of these remarks, growing so irritated that he calls his friends “worthless physicians” who “whitewash [their advice] with lies” (13:4). After making pains to assert his blameless character, Job ponders man’s relationship to God. He wonders why God judges people by their actions if God can just as easily alter or forgive their behavior. It is also unclear to Job how a human can appease or court God’s justice. God is unseen, and his ways are inscrutable and beyond human understanding. Moreover, humans cannot possibly persuade God with their words. God cannot be deceived, and Job admits that he does not even understand himself well enough to effectively plead his case to God. Job wishes for someone who can mediate between himself and God, or for God to send him to Sheol, the deep place of the dead.

Job’s friends are offended that he scorns their wisdom. They think his questions are crafty and lack an appropriate fear of God, and they use many analogies and metaphors to stress their ongoing point that nothing good comes of wickedness. Job sustains his confidence in spite of these criticisms, responding that even if he has done evil, it is his own personal problem. Furthermore, he believes that there is a “witness” or a “Redeemer” in heaven who will vouch for his innocence (16:19, 19:25). After a while, the upbraiding proves too much for Job, and he grows sarcastic, impatient, and afraid. He laments the injustice that God lets wicked people prosper while he and countless other innocent people suffer. Job wants to confront God and complain, but he cannot physically find God to do it. He feels that wisdom is hidden from human minds, but he resolves to persist in pursuing wisdom by fearing God and avoiding evil.

Without provocation, another friend, Elihu, suddenly enters the conversation. The young Elihu believes that Job has spent too much energy vindicating himself rather than God. Elihu explains to Job that God communicates with humans by two ways—visions and physical pain. He says that physical suffering provides the sufferer with an opportunity to realize God’s love and forgiveness when he is well again, understanding that God has “ransomed” him from an impending death (33:24). Elihu also assumes that Job must be wicked to be suffering as he is, and he thinks that Job’s excessive talking is an act of rebellion against God.

God finally interrupts, calling from a whirlwind and demanding Job to be brave and respond to his questions. God’s questions are rhetorical, intending to show how little Job knows about creation and how much power God alone has. God describes many detailed aspects of his creation, praising especially his creation of two large beasts, the Behemoth and Leviathan. Overwhelmed by the encounter, Job acknowledges God’s unlimited power and admits the limitations of his human knowledge. This response pleases God, but he is upset with Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar for spouting poor and theologically unsound advice. Job intercedes on their behalf, and God forgives them. God returns Job’s health, providing him with twice as much property as before, new children, and an extremely long life.

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Please ruminate upon the following:

1) What do you think about the depiction of God here? Is he exhibiting all of the attributes that we have discussed in class?

2) What conclusion (if any) does Job reach regarding the problem of evil?

3) Is there a message here about how we should approach or think about evil?

4) What is the meaning of the section concerning Job's friends? What are we meant to learn from this section?

5) What is the role of Satan in this story? Does he behave as you would expect him to?

ways in which God's attributes are mutually incoherent

N – God is said to be omnipotence but he is in fact limited by logic
E – God is omnipotence meaning he is all powerful, much more powerful that any of us humans. Showing that god is not like us in anyway, he is beyond us and he will always be something different to us. That said god cannot do the impossible, he cannot perform something logically incoherent. God therefore can’t go above reason.
I – He cannot make 2 + 2 = 5 because he is bound by the laws of logic. And even though he is all powerful he could never possibly be able to make a stone he could not lift.
L – This attribute is therefore not coherent as god could never be beyond the laws of logic or reason no matter how powerful he is.

N – A huge contradiction of gods attributes is the problem of evil when god is meant to be benevolent and hold supreme goodness.
E – God is very lovable to his creation and is said to be benevolent, forgiving and caring. If god controls what happens and is supremely good and loving towards us then why does he show us through evil and hate. A god that loved his creation could surely not let there be so much evil.
I – there are many forms of evil on this earth: war, natural disasters, crime and so on. A benevolent being shouldn’t and wouldn’t let this all happen surely.
L – Therefore benevolence is not mutually coherent with all the disasters and bad things that happen in this world.

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Name: God cannot be eternal and omnipotent
Explain: To be eternal god needs to have no beginning and no end, but to be omnipotent god needs to be able to act in time
Illustrate: If god acts in time then he is not eternal as he will be subject to time and must have a beginning and end, but if god does not act in time then he cannot be as powerful as something that does act in time and god must have acted in time to create our universe, which means he has a beginning and an end so he cannot be eternal if he is omnipotent.
Link: These attributes are mutually incoherent because to be omnipotent god must act in time meaning he cannot be eternal

Name: God cannot be transcendent and immanent
Explain: Transcendent and immanent seem to be opposites
Illustrate: To be transcendent god must be metaphysical and outside of the physical world. But to be immanent god must be actively involved in the physical world, so he cannot be both as if he is metaphysical he cannot be in the physical world and if he is imminent he cannot be metaphysical as he would not be involved in the physical world
Link: This shows that the attributes of god are mutually incoherent as god cannot be both transcendent and immanent.

We need to look at the attributes of the God of Classical Theism, and write ourselves a list so that we can name, explain and illustrate these attributes. For each term we need to know what it means and be able to provide a little bit of discussion, including, for example, the thoughts of a philosopher and a quote from The Bible. This needs to be laid out in a table ready for revision.

Couple of things to remember:

Each list will vary a bit in terms of the attributes it lists - make sure you stick to the list of attributes that they use in the first section of 'The Idea of God' on the specification.

Also, remember to maintain an awareness of the perspective that each site is coming from.

Do you know who the pictures are by? We can talk a little bit about these images of God in lessons.

The Nature of God (including list of attributes)

The attributes of God (use links at top of page for each attribute)

More on the attributes of God (scroll down a bit for links)

Another list (nicely laid-out with good scripture quotes)

Huge list of quotes